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Black and White movies

From: Jasper
Date: 17 Apr 2000
Time: 09:35:27
Remote Name: dyn1-tnt10-231.detroit.mi.ameritech.net

Comments

Kari,

I know that you didn't see the Quaid/Ryan version of D.O.A. The point is, the killer did. I know he did because of specific elements in the Bundy murders that correspond with specific elements in that version of the film. I'm sure that Fuhrman saw it because of specific references to Charlotte Rampling (same birthday) and NICK's sure-fire best selling book. I'm saying that a lot of things from the movies showed up in the crime simply because they were present in the killer's subconscious and were triggered by similarities in the names, settings, circumstances, etc., that the killer was not conscious of. Even though you saw the '49 version of D.O.A. rather than the '88 version, the '88 version was so widely advertised that it would have taken unusual circumstances for you to have missed the trailers. Some to the things you said about Murder 101 suggested to me that you did see the trailers for D.O.A. '89 without being consciously aware of it the way I did with The Player.

You're right about the ideas taken from old black and white movies. Murder My Sweet is one that I could have done a whole chapter on. In fact, that's why I couldn't use it; there was so much I would have HAD TO write another chapter and the book was getting too long as it was. I did get into Laura, The Bad Seed, Mirage and the original Twilight Zone. But I saw numerous indications that the killer watched old and new versions of the same movies-especially the classics like The Postman Always Rings Twice and Witness for the Prosecution. It looks like he got the general ideas like the ones you picked up on in The Thin Man Goes Home from the old moves and the specifics (Ford Bronco, white Ford Bronco, leather gloves, dark brown leather glove, ski mask blue knit cap) from more recent films. In a 1992 film, for instance, a kick bower (bloody shoes) appears to be wearing a pair of Bruno Magli Lorenzos.

You hit on something else with Wings. I think your right. Anything associated with great acclaim like The Birth of a Nation or major awards like the Weisman (O.J.), Major League baseball's Rookie of the Year (Mark "the bird" Fidrych), Basketball's player of the year (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird) and the Oscar loom large in the Fuhrman collection. There is so much to Fuhrman's quest for greatness through the movies that you could write book about it based on the Oscars alone. --Jasper ____________________________________________________________________

I hate being repetitive, I saw nothing of DOA with Quaid and Ryan. Just the old black and white movies. I bet you'd get a whole lot of clues sticking to black and white murders, like the one where one star kills someone and blames it on another actress. If the facts are only similar. See if there is a remake that switched things around so he/she could use it. Ever see A Thin Man Goes Home. The man thing about this old movie and the murder is how most of the people aren't who they seem. How the coroner almost got away with caliber of the bullet, two different knives. I bet if someone watched Wings the first academy award winner you'd find something this guy hooked into. Fuhrman is insidious in his thinking, whatever role he cast himself as.

 

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