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From: Junot
Date: 4/10/02
Time: 7:54:44 PM
Jasper:
You wrote:
John,
Kato didn't approach the cop; the cop approached him. ______________________________________________________ Well, true enough, Jasper...However, you must keep in mind what Kaelin must have been thinking in terms of MY theory.
That is, he was EXPECTING the cops to "approach him", and had his thumps story ready to go when Fuhrman asked a rather standard question, and one that all the cops on tv ask. My guess is, if Fuhrman hadn't asked him, he would have found some pretense for volunteering the information. _______________________________________________________
I admire your deductive skills, which is why I've been trying so hard to get you on my side. You know damn well that Fuhrman doesn't believe the idiotic story he tells in Hypothesis of a Murder (idiotic to you and me, not to the vast majority of his readers). It's not just a guess. There is enough in that chapter to eliminate all but one answer to that question. But you have a fix on Kaelin as the killer that sometimes gets in your way of acknowledging evidence concerning Fuhrman ________________________________________________________
I have yet to see that evidence, Jasper. I have been heavily influenced by "O.J. Unmasked " by M.L. Rantala, which is much more of a defense against charges of a police conspiracy that a case against O.J.
My opinion is: The police did not plant any evidence before the arrest of O.J. However, the back gate blood and the blood on the socks was planted by someone connected to the LAPD, and those two items of "evidence" had such lousy chains of custody, and something non-kosher had been done with the sockes, that they should not have even been admitted into evidence. _______________________________________________________ and Kato that you have to acknowledged to get some basic things right. Clearly one of these guys was dancing to the other one's tune. _________________________________________________________ I'm not sure what you mean by that. While Kaelin did briefly manipulate Fuhrman, he would have manipulated whoever policeman happened to show up, and the manipulation only extended as far and directing Fuhrman to the glove. _______________________________________________________ The question is, which one was the dancer and which was the musician?
Your analogy assumes that Fuhrman is doing his job as a detective and not as the man who masterminded the murders to frame O.J. Simpson. If Fuhrman is the killer - and only if he is the killer -- he did his job as a detective brilliantly…
What if two beat cops saw you reading a book under a tree? Suppose one of the cops arranged for a friend parked in a convertible behind the tree to thump the tree three times with a boxing glove on one of those silly accordion contraptions in cartoons and then to duck down out of sight. _______________________________________________________ I would have gotten up and walked around the tree looking for the source of the noise. ______________________________________________________
Everybody knows that contraptions like that don't really exist and there is no reason for anyone to do something that ridiculous.
A few hours later, one of the beat cops walks up to you with three different cops while you are sleeping. His partner is nowhere in sight. The cop taps you awake with his nightstick, makes a cryptic comment about your clothes, gives you a sobriety test and tells you that someone you know has been busted for selling cocaine. _______________________________________________________ This is not analogous to Fuhrman's initial questioning of Kaelin. the cops didn't say why they were there for several more minutes. ______________________________________________________
The other cops leave. He then asks you if anything peculiar happened a couple of hours ago. You tell him exactly what you heard. _________________________________________________________ Under those circumstance, I would have clammed up. I definitely would not have reported the thumps because I would have been too suspicious fo what was going on. _______________________________________________________
The cop goes behind the tree by himself, and finds the cocaine. ______________________________________________________ You have my analogy ass-backwards, Jasper. In your version, the cop is obviously trying to frame me, or at least link me, to the cocaine he planted. What Fuhrman did vis-a-vis Kaelin was almost the exact opposite. He almost willfully failed to make the obvious and logical connection between Kaelin and the glove. ______________________________________________________
Yes John, I now this analogy is more involved than yours. But so is the evidence. --Jasper _______________________________________________________ What "evidence"? I have always argued that if Fuhrman wanted to plant the glove, perhaps the most illogical place to put it was behind Kaelin's room. The 'best' place would have been under the seat of the Bronco. Note that every scenario that has Fuhrman planting the glove also has him with access to the inside of the Bronco.
You also argue, or seem to, that the thumps were caused by Fuhrman or an accomplice, so that Kaelin would then report them to Fuhrman, thereby giving him a pretense to go behind Kaelin's room.
The thing is: (1) Fuhman or accomplice would be assuming godlike knowledge of Kaelin in that he would (a)hear the thumps,and (b) report them in the morning.
Furhtermore, Fuhrman didn't even need a pretense to go search the path. After they had the warrant, and perhaps even before, he could have gone down the path as "standard precedure" for doing a search.
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