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From: Jean
Date: 9/11/01
Time: 1:13:42 AM
I can't figure this one out. Did Kato's room have a secondary alarm that he did not use or is this alarm pad between Nicole's office and the house. Perhaps my logic was wrong. ------------------------- Gigi. Michelle possibly. Nicole. A.C. And I don't know after that. Q: Were there doors that one could -- Let's assume the alarm was on. Were there doors that people could go in and out of the house through that would not activate the alarm? A: Yes. Q: Which doors were those? A: The ones that came from the guest house into the house, and -- I don't know -- I have some window doors. I don't know if they're -- if they were on the alarm at the time, and I don't think any of the windows were on the alarm at that time. Q: How many guest houses were on the property? One? A: Three. Q: Now, do each of those guest houses have a door that goes into the main residence? A: No.Just one. Q: Just one. And who was in that guest house at the time? A: Kato. Q: Did Kato also have a door that went out to the exterior of the property? A: Yes. Q: And was that door on the alarm? A: To the exterior of the property, no. Q: So Kato could come into his guest house by getting into this exterior door that went directly into his guest house; even if the alarm was on, it would not go off. Correct? A: It depends. If-- there was an alarm there, too. I missed that one. It depends if it was engaged or not. Q: Kato's exterior door had an alarm on it? A: Yeah. Q: Was there a keypad in - and outside of his door? A: Yeah. No. Just outside of his door. Q: So when Kato - if the alarm were on and Kato were coming home -- let's say you were out of town -- he would have to punch the code in order to get in. Right? A: Well, he didn't know the code, but if he had known the code, he would have had to do that. Q: Is this the same--is it on the same code as the rest of the house? A: Yes. Q: So when you were out of town and Kaelin was staying there, the alarm was never on? A: He didn't have access to my house. I don't know if the alarm was on, because the housekeeper was there, but he didn't have unlimited access into my home. Q: So he would go into the guest house. Right? A: Yes. Q: And his normal routine was to enter through this exterior door? A: Yes. Q: And based on your ground rules with him, was he permitted to go into the interior of the house from his guest house? A: Unless somebody invited him in. Q: What if no one invited him? A: He wasn't supposed to go in. And the door was always locked. There's two doors, actually, and both of them were always locked. Q: Did he have the key to unlock those doors? A: No. Q: You said yesterday there was a single key that keyed all the doors on the property. A: No. I had a single key to all the doors on the property. Q:: But that key also worked on Kaelin's lock, too? A: Yes. Q: And he had a key. Right? A: Yes. Q: So he could have used that key to access any lock on the property. Right? A: That's incorrect. Q: Why is that incorrect? A: Because he couldn't. Q; Is it because he didn't have permission? A: No. Q: I'm confused. I'm not understanding your testimony. If his lock was keyed the same as all the other locks and he had a key -- A: I didn't say that. You said that. Q: Okay. So his lock was keyed differently. Is that what you're saying? A: Yes. Q: The exterior door. A: Yes. Q: And the interior doors he did not have the key to. Right? A: Correct. Q: And he couldn't open those doors from the inside of his room to get into the residence. Is that right? A: Correct. Q: They could be locked on the other side of the door. Right? A: Correct.
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