A PROBABLY AROUND 10:50, 10:45.

Q SO YOU HUNG UP AROUND 10:45 TO 10:50?

A UH-HUH

Q And were you worried?

A Yes.

Q Were you scared?

A Yes.

Q Did you think it might be a prowler?

A Yes.

Q So what did you do?

A Well, I got the little flashlight and I went out to check on the noise.

Q Now, you hung up the phone how long after you heard the thumps?

A About two to three minutes. Pretty -- pretty fast I hung up the phone.

Q Pretty fast?

A I'm pretty sure I did. I might have talked about the noise for a bit but then I hung up and said I was going to go and do it and check on it. So two or three minutes.

Q Do you recall testifying before the grand jury that it was one to five minutes?

A Yes. That's in the range.

That's in the range, yes. It could have been as little as one minute?

A It might have been, yes.

Q So the time between hearing the thumps and you hanging up the phone could have been as little as one minute, as much as five minutes?

A Yes.

In case you missed it, the time Kato gave for hearing the thumps and the length of time he said he talked on the phone with Rachel Ferrara after he heard them are out of sync. They don't agree with the time we know that Park saw him on the Ashford-side path near the driveway. Marcia's interest here is only in establishing the veracity of Park's story of seeing Kato when and where he did.

Q When you first came out on the path, sir, did you notice anything or anyone in the driveway or at the gate?

A The limousine.

No O.J. But according to Marcia, Park did see O.J. Thus, the distance between Kato and O.J. in Marcia 1.