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From: Jasper
Date: 5/2/03
Time: 12:55:52 PM
Remote Name: 68.73.57.60
Have you ever dissected the phenomenon of lying? I have. I’d like to know how your analysis compares to mine.
First of all, I’ve noticed that people often accuse others of lying when they misstate a fact or cite a fact that doesn’t agree with one of the accuser’s firmly held beliefs. As soon as this happens you get into a thing where the accusers begins to attribute dishonorable motives to the accused for everything that he or she says. The accusers then respond to the motives they have ascribed to the “liar” rather than the substance of what the accused has to say and no further communication takes place on the subject at hand.
This is how I was able to get Prien to fall into the trap I set for him, even though I warned him that it was a trap and told him how to avid it. His actions were entirely predictable.
In Prien’s previous posts he had assumed I was lying about my professional qualifications in certain areas of photo interpretation and problem solving. He firmly believed that some things that were easy to do if you knew the trick were impossible for anyone to do. When I did it to him (the way Fuhrman did it to many of the people above him in his chain of command) he became so angry with me that he started zeroing in on anything I wrote that appeared to be inconsistent and tried to hammer me with it.
I’m not picking on Prien. I like him. I know that he is very smart. If he wasn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to get him go for the misdirection I gave him. I value his observations.
For example, Prien was the first one to say that the “blood flows” on Bundy were wrong, in that they did not conform to any of the scenarios that featured O.J. as the killer. I had been wracking my brain for years to say the same thing as succinctly as he did. I didn’t come close. Unfortunately, he never saw that his observation did conform to my scenario of Fuhrman as the killer (bodies posed, evidence carefully arranged). He never even looked at it because he rejected Fuhrman as a possible suspect from the start.
This is why I am so reluctant to conclude that anyone is lying. It gets in the way of finding the truth if the accused happened to have misstated a fact or if he or she stated a fact that didn’t conform to one of my firmly held beliefs.
A lie is a deliberate attempt to deceive. A liar is someone who lies systematically to gain an advantage or to avoid the anticipated consequences of telling the truth.
Phillips lied on the witness stand. So did Riske, Vannatter and Lange. Marcia Clark lied too.
Fuhrman, on the other hand, is a liar. Lying is one of his defining characteristics.
I’d like to get into this more. Please let me know what you think. –Jasper