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From: charlie
Date: 12/2/02
Time: 9:25:24 AM
Remote Name: 209.240.198.60
Jasper, You are correct that it strongly suggests that. Added to that is the Pellicano connection that I failed to mention late last night. He and Jack Pallidino (finally recalled his name) and others were hired by Clinton's people off and on for over a decade to "harass" and "threaten" the women into not talking.
Somehow I can't just pass over THAT coincidence lightly. Or is it a coincidence at all?
Or perhaps it is all tied up in the Heidi Fleiss business--as I have suggested it might be for a long time now---the political side of it where she and her group were hired for parties, etc. for the top people in governments in the World (not just the USA).
And because we have learned much to our despair, how much foreign countries try and do influence out politics (from money contributions to actions), it would not be out of the realm of possibility that foreigners of one type or another work behind the scenes to keep certain people in power to their country's advantage or to hide a scandal that involves their country. Or that very powerful people work behind the scenes to keep certain politicians in power for their own gain or their own agenda.
The four killed at Waco? Yes, they were all from Arkansas and they all had been on the presidental detail (campaign) and had just been reassigned. I do believe the BATF is "under' the Treasury Dept. just like the Secret Service. I believe these were people who had been basically handpicked by Clinton for the campaign trail and were relieved of duty in favor of "true' Secret Service agents out of DC when the election was over and Clinton went to DC. Their duties were out of Arkansas. And the guy who actually ordered them to go in or was in charge of their group was also one of the agents out of Arkansas and would be considered their boss.
They weren't in a "group" when they went in. They were scattered all over the compound in different locations and managed to be the only ones killed that day or even later from the government.
I, too, have seen the Clinton Body Count and they usually top the list of the names in every one I have ever seen. And regardless of the truth of the matter, many of the deaths listed there ARE suspicious in manner and timing. Some of the names are a real "stretch" but some defy odds.
No doubt a list of a similiar nature could be compiled on each and every president going back a long way. The position is too powerful for those behind the power not to do desperate measures assure the power stays with them. Does the name Billy Sol Estes combined with Lyndon Johnson mean anything to you? Or some of the women around John Kennedy? and others?
What was striking about the Clinton Body Count was the sheer numbers and the scope of it and just how many times those in a position to "harm" him died in some way are a critical time.
And another thing to consider is the so-called "private' activities of certain presidents is more active and more damaging than others. Some have some ify business associations, etc. Or in Gary Hart's case an affair (with the girlfriend of Don Henley, a man that Clinton was having dinner with in CA the night Hart got caught in Florida).
With Clinton and Kennedy, it was the sheer numbers of women and the indecriminate nature of their activities with women that they many times knew nothing about that was the "danger" to them and in some cases to national security as per Kennedy.
Heidi Fleiss and her father both have connected Clinton to her and she made the statement, "I could have killed NAFTA" publicly which to me implied she was privey to some behind the scenes agreements or wrangling or "plans" about NAFTA if passed.
Jasper, in Arkansas when Clinton was governor, there were drug cases (where the culprit turned out to be the Clinton supported DA who was actually doing the prosecutions and "sharing' the witness lists with the Dixie Mafia for death. In this case, something like 15 'witnesses" --all young people were killed over a couple year period when their secret locations were exposed by the DA to those who wanted to know. That man is in jail right now for the drugs but not the other.
Just give it some thought.
And Starr was no Friend to the GOP, he covered up more than he exposed in his investigations.
And Merridth Oakley --a Dem newspaper columnist--who wrote the bio of the 92 campaign and more called ON THE MAKE has written in the Arkansas Gazette about how if the press/media had wanted to know about Bill Clinton it was there for them to see all over the headlines of the paper for more than 10 years. How every single opponent of Clinton's during that time ended up indicted (but cleared the day after the election) or arrested, in jail or dead during that time (or at the very least their marriages ruined and bankrupt and their reputations ruined)
I don't deny that other presidents and politicians for all parties haven't engaged in some of this behavior and have some sleazy connections or things to hide. But the sheer Volume that is known about Bill Clinton is staggering.
And I didn't know til after the Brentwood Murders and much later that Clinton had been going on a frequent and regular basis since about the early 70's and all thru his governorship, it was a joke how much time he spent in Hollywood...associating with Pellicano, that editor who protected and paid Faye Resnick, Mickey Kantor and others and was a wild party goer all thru that time. And all thru the reign of Madame Alex in Hollywood as well.
You mention the sheer volume of coincidences with Fuhrman around the Simpson case. I could say the same about Clinton and the Fliess case and others that are at the least on the fringe of the Brentwood murders.
Nobody has to agree with me. It is a free country. And as I said, other politicians may have things to hide as well that others help them with. However, when you are in the public life of a politician and have aspirations to become president (since aged 16) yet do not use any descretion in your private life and are impulsive to the point of danger, you might have a lot more to hide than any other. charlie